Kevyn Shortell (kevyn@apple.com)
Tue, 8 Dec 1998 13:22:57 -0800
I know the 9500's rom won't work in a Shiner, the device tree
is not the same.
There are subtle differances that would require software changes to
work, such a ethernet driver, and scsi driver, but since it's not possible
to build your own rom, it's not likely to happen anytime soon =P
I've been seeing this thread for over a year now, you still only
have the choice of AIX, or Linux.
Kevyn
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At 12:02 PM -0800 12/8/98, Dave Beck wrote:
>Apple stands corrected ;)
>I've never been privy to a 9500. Can you comment on the ROMs?
>
>Quoting Kevyn Shortell (kevyn@apple.com):
>>
>> The ANS's CPU card will NOT work in a 9500. They are not pin compatable,
>> if you compare a 9500's CPU card,to the ANS's CPU card, the card connector
>> is noticably larger =)
>>
>> Kevyn
>>
>>
>>
>> At 10:38 AM -0800 12/8/98, Aaron deMello wrote:
>> >Indeed, the ROMs are on the motherboard and not the CPU... That is
>>precidely
>> >the problem ;) If the ROMs swapped with the CPU card we might be able
>>to run
>> >a REAL os easily on these beasts ;)
>> >
>> >In fact, I have been told by apple that the ANS CPU Card will work in a
>>9500
>> >but that doesn't mean that the ANS ROMs will support _other_ CPU Cards than
>> >those made specifically for it. That is, there may be certain CPU handling
>> >information in the ROMs that would be non-functional or downright goofy
>>with
>> >a G3 or other upgrade. Someone, if they were so inclined to waste some
>>time
>> >could possibly try pestering Apple.
>> >
>> >Quoting Aaron deMello (aaron@demonsys.com):
>> >> right, but aren't the ROMs on the motherboard and not on the CPU card?
>> >>
>> >> i believe that the ANS card is the same kind of card that is used for
>>most
>> >> 8500/9500 upgrades (e.g. daystar, powerlogic, etc.)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > We have been talking about trying this out here at the DUsers.
>>There is
>> >> > no question in my mind that if the ROMs supported it, it would
>>work. Of
>> >> > course, there is the little (HA!) issue of those totally
>>bastardized ROMs.
>> >> > What you would be looking for if you were going to try one would be one
>> >> that
>> >> > works in the 9500 (the box that can reportedly run AIX / the box whose
>> >>ROMs
>> >> > in a 500 (700?) will reportedly run MacOS). Just make sure that the
>> >> retailer
>> >> > will accept the card back. ;)
>> >> >
>> >> > Quoting Aaron deMello (aaron@demonsys.com):
>> >> >> Has anyone tried upgrading the CPU card in the ANS to something other
>> >>than
>> >> >> the regular Apple ANS CPU cards? e.g. a G3? a 250mhz 604e card?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm just curious.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> d.
>> >> >>
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>> >> > --
>> >> > Dave Beck
>> >> > dave@arginine.umdnj.edu Sites of interest (set 2):
>> >> > Computer Science and Biology
>> >>http://www.cyc.com/cyc-2-1/toc.html
>> >> > Drexel University, Philadelphia PA http://arginine.umdnj.edu/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ---
>> >> Aaron deMello - President aaron@demonsys.com
>> >> Demon Systems, Inc. http://www.demonsys.com
>> >> 20 St. Paul St. East, Suite 3 Phone: (514) 875-7475
>> >> Montreal, Quebec H2Y 1G3 Fax: (514) 875-7472
>> >
>> >--
>> >Dave Beck
>> >dave@arginine.umdnj.edu Sites of interest (set 2):
>> >Computer Science and Biology http://www.cyc.com/cyc-2-1/toc.html
>> >Drexel University, Philadelphia PA http://arginine.umdnj.edu/
>> >
>> >---
>> >Aaron deMello - President aaron@demonsys.com
>> >Demon Systems, Inc. http://www.demonsys.com
>> >20 St. Paul St. East, Suite 3 Phone: (514) 875-7475
>> >Montreal, Quebec H2Y 1G3 Fax: (514) 875-7472
>>
>>
>
>--
>Dave Beck
>dave@arginine.umdnj.edu Sites of interest (set 2):
>Computer Science and Biology http://www.cyc.com/cyc-2-1/toc.html
>Drexel University, Philadelphia PA http://arginine.umdnj.edu/
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