Dave Beck (dave@arginine.umdnj.edu)
Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:54:52 -0500
I _did_ hear a rumor from inside apple that one of the Rhapsody internal
apple releases was coaxed into running on an ANS. Any truth in that?
Quoting Kevyn Shortell (kevyn@apple.com):
> I know the 9500's rom won't work in a Shiner, the device tree
> is not the same.
>
> There are subtle differances that would require software changes to
> work, such a ethernet driver, and scsi driver, but since it's not possible
> to build your own rom, it's not likely to happen anytime soon =P
>
> I've been seeing this thread for over a year now, you still only
> have the choice of AIX, or Linux.
>
> Kevyn
>
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> Kevyn Shortell Developer Technical Support
> Mac OS/UNIX Systems Engineer Apple Computer, Inc
> kevyn@apple.com http://developer.apple.com/games
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> At 12:02 PM -0800 12/8/98, Dave Beck wrote:
> >Apple stands corrected ;)
> >I've never been privy to a 9500. Can you comment on the ROMs?
> >
> >Quoting Kevyn Shortell (kevyn@apple.com):
> >>
> >> The ANS's CPU card will NOT work in a 9500. They are not pin compatable,
> >> if you compare a 9500's CPU card,to the ANS's CPU card, the card connector
> >> is noticably larger =)
> >>
> >> Kevyn
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 10:38 AM -0800 12/8/98, Aaron deMello wrote:
> >> >Indeed, the ROMs are on the motherboard and not the CPU... That is
> >>precidely
> >> >the problem ;) If the ROMs swapped with the CPU card we might be able
> >>to run
> >> >a REAL os easily on these beasts ;)
> >> >
> >> >In fact, I have been told by apple that the ANS CPU Card will work in a
> >>9500
> >> >but that doesn't mean that the ANS ROMs will support _other_ CPU Cards than
> >> >those made specifically for it. That is, there may be certain CPU handling
> >> >information in the ROMs that would be non-functional or downright goofy
> >>with
> >> >a G3 or other upgrade. Someone, if they were so inclined to waste some
> >>time
> >> >could possibly try pestering Apple.
> >> >
> >> >Quoting Aaron deMello (aaron@demonsys.com):
> >> >> right, but aren't the ROMs on the motherboard and not on the CPU card?
> >> >>
> >> >> i believe that the ANS card is the same kind of card that is used for
> >>most
> >> >> 8500/9500 upgrades (e.g. daystar, powerlogic, etc.)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > We have been talking about trying this out here at the DUsers.
> >>There is
> >> >> > no question in my mind that if the ROMs supported it, it would
> >>work. Of
> >> >> > course, there is the little (HA!) issue of those totally
> >>bastardized ROMs.
> >> >> > What you would be looking for if you were going to try one would be one
> >> >> that
> >> >> > works in the 9500 (the box that can reportedly run AIX / the box whose
> >> >>ROMs
> >> >> > in a 500 (700?) will reportedly run MacOS). Just make sure that the
> >> >> retailer
> >> >> > will accept the card back. ;)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Quoting Aaron deMello (aaron@demonsys.com):
> >> >> >> Has anyone tried upgrading the CPU card in the ANS to something other
> >> >>than
> >> >> >> the regular Apple ANS CPU cards? e.g. a G3? a 250mhz 604e card?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I'm just curious.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> d.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ---
> >> >> >> Aaron deMello - President aaron@demonsys.com
> >> >> >> Demon Systems, Inc. http://www.demonsys.com
> >> >> >> 20 St. Paul St. East, Suite 3 Phone: (514) 875-7475
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> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Dave Beck
> >> >> > dave@arginine.umdnj.edu Sites of interest (set 2):
> >> >> > Computer Science and Biology
> >> >>http://www.cyc.com/cyc-2-1/toc.html
> >> >> > Drexel University, Philadelphia PA http://arginine.umdnj.edu/
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ---
> >> >> Aaron deMello - President aaron@demonsys.com
> >> >> Demon Systems, Inc. http://www.demonsys.com
> >> >> 20 St. Paul St. East, Suite 3 Phone: (514) 875-7475
> >> >> Montreal, Quebec H2Y 1G3 Fax: (514) 875-7472
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Dave Beck
> >> >dave@arginine.umdnj.edu Sites of interest (set 2):
> >> >Computer Science and Biology http://www.cyc.com/cyc-2-1/toc.html
> >> >Drexel University, Philadelphia PA http://arginine.umdnj.edu/
> >> >
> >> >---
> >> >Aaron deMello - President aaron@demonsys.com
> >> >Demon Systems, Inc. http://www.demonsys.com
> >> >20 St. Paul St. East, Suite 3 Phone: (514) 875-7475
> >> >Montreal, Quebec H2Y 1G3 Fax: (514) 875-7472
> >>
> >>
> >
> >--
> >Dave Beck
> >dave@arginine.umdnj.edu Sites of interest (set 2):
> >Computer Science and Biology http://www.cyc.com/cyc-2-1/toc.html
> >Drexel University, Philadelphia PA http://arginine.umdnj.edu/
>
>
-- Dave Beck dave@arginine.umdnj.edu Sites of interest (set 2): Computer Science and Biology http://www.cyc.com/cyc-2-1/toc.html Drexel University, Philadelphia PA http://arginine.umdnj.edu/
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